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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Now Available: "The Mauser HSc Pistol"

« on: June 17, 2013, 06:54:49 AM »

Thank you for your endorsement, Roger.  For Peter and I, this was a pure research project and not a commercial endeavor.  It was done because much of the information about the HSc was so fragmented and incorrect.  As it approached its current level of completeness (it's never really finished), we decided to share our efforts with other serious HSc collectors.  We are delighted that you found it helpful as you continue to expand your knowledge and collection of this extraordinary pistol design.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: RE: Correct Mauser Holster

« on: June 13, 2013, 03:35:19 AM »

Hello Alan:  Here are the German wartime Army (Heer), Navy (Kriegsmarine), Airforce (Luftwaffe), and Police (Polizei) pattern HSc Holsters.  Each service contracted with a different Holster manufacturer.  The closure strap on the Army Holster can be either up or down.  By the way, there is no "p" in Waffenamt (Waffen = Weapons, Amt = Department).  Hope that helps you out.

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Model 1914 Pistol / Re: New addition, 1920 marked and police marked 1914

« on: June 12, 2013, 04:28:07 PM »

Great find, Gerben!  Congratulations!

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc and the Triangular big chuck of steel in front of trigger...

« on: June 12, 2013, 04:50:45 AM »

No ... I meant exactly what I said.  Every Transitional HSc I have seen above about 795000 has a solid Frame Web.  If Roger's 818 is hollow, it may have been held up or lost in inventory until February 1943 when it was serialized.  This is unusual but not uncommon during production at Mauser.  When more than just this one hollow Frame Web is reported between 795 and 818, I will consider extending my interpretation of the Transitional period that I now have ending at 800445 (November 1942).

Roger and Asle, this is all good information and thanks for sharing.

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Model HSC Pistol / Now Available: "The Mauser HSc Pistol"

« on: June 09, 2013, 04:19:14 PM »

We are offering for sale copies of our comprehensive research into the Mauser HSc pistol. The booklet is approximately 75 pages in 8˝” x 11” format. It includes more than 100 grey scale illustrations and charts.

 TABLE of CONTENTS
 Introduction
 Pistol Development
 Production HSc Features
 (Including Parts List and Disassembly)
 Proof Marks
 Acceptance Marks
 Serial Numbering
 Mark Locator
 The War Years
 Post-War Production
 The New Model HSc
 Mark Locator
 Conclusion
 Serial Number Chart (I)
 Wartime Production Chart (II)
 Variation Charts (III)
 (With Still’s “Axis Pistols” Variations)
 Patent Listing (IV)
 KM Inspection Offices (V)
 Firearms Glossary (VI)
 Bibliography
 Reference Notes

To purchase a copy in the U.S., go to www.legacy-collectibles.com or send payment to Legacy Collectibles, 73 Plank Avenue, Paoli, PA 19301. Email questions to info@legacy-collectibles.com. Price per copy is $50.

European collectors can contact Gerben van Vlimmeren at theparabellumisback@kpnmail.nl for purchase details in Europe.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Lanyard loop on HSc?

« on: June 07, 2013, 03:34:34 AM »

All Early Wartime HSc's had a Lanyard Loophole.  The last documented pistol with a Loophole was 792225 in September 1942 during the Transitional period.  It was in this period (August to November 1942) that Mauser made some significant changes to the HSc.  In addition to eliminating the Lanyard Loophole, they converted to the Military Blue finish from the High Polish Blue, the Sight Ramp was changed from an etched matte to just a plain matte finish, and the Frame Web in front of the Trigger that had been machined almost hollow was left solid.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: What type of magazin for my HSc?

« on: June 04, 2013, 02:44:54 PM »

Hello Asle.  There were three major magazine types used throughout production:  the earliest ones (1940 to 1942) had a machined follower and flat bottom or floorplate stamped with the Mauser banner (trademark) on it; the banner was subsequently discontinued leaving just a plain, flat floorplate; and the final type (1943 to 1945) had a machined or stamped follower and blank sheet metal floorplate that was indented near the front.  The floorplate was also notched at the rear so that pressure from the magazine latch was applied to the magazine housing and not the floorplate.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase

« on: May 25, 2013, 10:29:12 AM »

From your picture, Martin, it looks like a blue Slide mounted on a phosphate Frame .  The Trigger is the later (correct) pressed sheet metal type instead of machined.  The tip of the left Grip that curves over the Trigger is broken off.  The Holster is German Army style (are there any markings on it?).  Still a great buy at $225.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: May 22, 2013, 10:38:03 PM »

Yes.  It's an Early Wartime Banner Magazine.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: May 22, 2013, 05:01:11 PM »

Thanks, Gerben.  I only wish my photography skills were as good as yours so I could present it properly.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: May 22, 2013, 03:28:19 PM »

Don't be envious, Jim.  I have waited many, many years for the right one to come along.

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Model HSC Pistol / Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: May 21, 2013, 12:26:13 PM »

I thought I would share my latest addition.  Kriegsmarine HSc serial number 700516, which would make it the 516th production pistol from December 1940.  It's all matching at about 97%-98% finish with the KM Property Mark engraved on the front Gripstrap, early dark wood stained Grip Panels, and, of course, the Low Grip Screw position notable on the first 1,345 HSc pistols.  Thanks to Tom Whiteman at Legacy Collectables for brokering the deal for me.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Production Chart

« on: May 15, 2013, 10:18:35 AM »

You're welcome.  I also hope you meant 7.65mm (=.32 ACP) instead of 7.62mm in your original post.  And I agree, Mark's website is an excellent collectors' reference.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase

« on: May 15, 2013, 09:43:04 AM »

Don't know why you deleted all your posts and pictures but you did!  Anyway, I don't like repeating myself so see Reply #3.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Production Chart

« on: May 14, 2013, 07:40:55 PM »

Wecome aboard, Ogtree!  I'm just going to copy excerpts from the HSc research booklet that Peter Theodore and I authored to answer your questions:

"Referring to the reported serial numbers, the end of M1934 production (serial number 628585) can, more than likely, be delineated between HSc 708708 (first HSc with the large Eagle/655) and 710508 (last reported small Eagle/655) or about March, 1941.  Also, the elimination of the Army Test Proof was not a clean break as some non-test proof pistols have been identified as early as 712208 and others with the ATP mark reach up to 715323."

"Mauser made a few HSc pistols using phosphate finishing in combination with plastic grips in the early months of 1944, probably to demonstrate the concept to their customers in the military and police as an alternative to the more expensive and less resilient bluing process.  The first documented HSc with these characteristics was serial number 882447.

   882447 - Army (January 1944)      894194 - Army (March 1944)
   891120 - Police (February 1944)   896889 - Police (April 1944)

By February 1945, Mauser modified their HSc production to include phosphate finishing as a wartime expediency.  Much of the subsequent output that year, beginning with 946887 - Army, exhibited this coating."

I have no record of HSc's with inverted serial numbers.  There were a few in the 950300 range with inverted Army Acceptance Marks.  Hope that information helps with your lecture.  Anything else, let me know.