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Well as it turns out I was able to locate 4 C-96 extractors out there in cyberspace. 3 of them (originals) were on eBay. Two were bundled into a parts lot along with several C-96 internal parts. a few bolts, some springs, firing groups, triggers etc. Maybe 25 parts and subassemblies. The starting bid (get this) $900.00!!!!!! Whoa! So no, those were out of the question. This as far as I know will be my sole C-96 so unlike my small collection of 6 different .25 and .32 Mauser 1910/1914 pocket pistols, I'm not planning to buy any more C-96's unless.... well you know how it goes. This same vendor had a lone used OEM extractor up for purchase. His "Buy It Now" price was $80.00 so not too bad given the scarcity of them. This vendor is located in Russia, so who knows how long that would have taken. And I couldn't really tell from his poor photos, how much wear was on the claw.But, and praise the gun god... there is a company named KB International located in Buckeye, Arizona that I found and they produce a lot of new reproduction parts for older guns like the C-96. They have new extractors for $49 plus shipping totaling out ~$60. So I have a new repro extractor which on inspection looks very nice and properly made. That said, I haven't installed it yet. But the reviews on the KBI web page are all 5 star and the buyers say the fit is perfect. It seems like it is finished in black oxide maybe. I think the original is flame blued? Not sure. I could easily do that if I want. I just don't know a lot about these C-96 guns yet but I will be learning as I did on the pocket pistols. You can look at their web site here https://www.kbtacticalstar.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=105 I also obtained new repro recoil and firing pin springs from Numrich, which had no extractors in stock.I do know this much. Mine is in the 500,000 serial range so I estimate on my limited knowledge that it is a 1930ish or a little earlier (1927?) 9mm commercial gun that has been reworked and refinished. It has some fire bluing and what appears to be a straw finished hammer and a few other parts. The bolt is in the raw. It also has perhaps a hot blued frame and barrel, trigger... etc There was some pitting on the side of the magazine well prior to refinishing so it's been blued over. There is a small "Mauser" banner stamping in the square on one side. Overall, it's a pretty nice refinish. Serials look the same except for 2 parts. The slide catch? and one other internal I can't recall. Sorry... I'm no authority on these as yet. I just bought the gun and I'm reading and learning. It has repro Red-9 grips. It came with the repro butt stock with it's leather frog, cleaning rod, and a couple 10 round stripper clips. So it's a not very collectable slightly hodge-podged refinished non matching Broom Handle made up to look like a Red-9...um...shooter. The internal wear looks minimal and I doubt it has seen much firing since the rework. I bought it as a curio-relic, not a collectable investment and I plan to use it to augment my historic military firearms display at gun shows now and then. I like it for it's strange design and I wanted to dissect it's design and machining. I wasn't really interested in paying thousands for an Honest to God matching, all original example. Let's face it, you only realize the monetary value of a collectable when you sell it off and I never sell a gun anyway. I remember when I was a "coffee table" FFL dealer in the mid 80's until the Clinton Crime Family took power and began hardassing the FFL holders like myself by weaponizing the ATF against us,( Just like they are still doing with the IRS, FBI and the Intel networks. But don't get me started...)every wholesaler like SOG, Century Arms Intl. etc back then were hawking Red-9's by the drove, which I now suspect were guns like this one I have dolled up and with re-pro Red 9 grips. I never bought one but they were obviously not the real Red-9s given the fact that what, maybe 135,000 sequentially numbered real Red-9's actually were delivered out of the 150,000 ordered. Ya so... I'm happy with this gun, I know what it is. I intend to play with and shoot it a few times. I'm looking for some original grips without the 9 on them. There are some on eBay at ~$150.00.

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you recommend an experienced C-96 gunsmith?
« on: November 14, 2021, 03:05:56 PM »
Heck, well at least he had one for sale. I would have popped on it if I hadn't found the repro. I met a guy on the forums here from Montana who is an ardent pocket pistol guy. I've bought several parts from him. He's a great guy. Your collection sounds very impressive. I'm sure now that I have this one and what I will learn about them, I'll be attracted like a moth to a flame every time I see one at a gun show. I attend shows in several states and since I have the Curio Relic FFL, I can legally buy them out of state. I just bought two books on them.

System Mauser by Belford and Dunlap

Mauser Self-Loading Pistol C96 Broomhandle Mauser by Breathed and Schroder

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you help me identify this Bolo?
« on: November 14, 2021, 01:26:54 PM »
Thanks! I figured as much by doing a little reading. I really appreciate your reply.

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you recommend an experienced C-96 gunsmith?
« on: November 14, 2021, 01:25:42 PM »
Hey, thanks Henry! Well as it turns out I was able to locate 4 C-96 extractors out there in cyberspace. 3 of them (originals) were on eBay. Two were bundled into a parts lot along with several C-96 internal parts. a few bolts, some springs, firing groups, triggers etc. Maybe 25 parts and subassemblies. The starting bid (get this) $900.00!!!!!! Whoa! So no, those were out of the question. This as far as I know will be my sole C-96 so unlike my small collection of 6 different .25 and .32 Mauser 1910/1914 pocket pistols, I'm not planning to buy any more C-96's unless.... well you know how it goes. This same vendor had a lone used OEM extractor up for purchase. His "Buy It Now" price was $80.00 so not too bad given the scarcity of them. This vendor is located in Russia, so who knows how long that would have taken. And I couldn't really tell from his poor photos, how much wear was on the claw.


But, and praise the gun god... there is a company named KB International located in Buckeye, Arizona that I found and they produce a lot of new reproduction parts for older guns like the C-96. They have new extractors for $49 plus shipping totaling out ~$60. So I have a new repro extractor which on inspection looks very nice and properly made. That said, I haven't installed it yet. But the reviews on the KBI web page are all 5 star and the buyers say the fit is perfect. It seems like it is finished in black oxide maybe. I think the original is flame blued? Not sure. I could easily do that if I want. I just don't know a lot about these C-96 guns yet but I will be learning as I did on the pocket pistols. You can look at their web site here https://www.kbtacticalstar.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=105 I also obtained new repro recoil and firing pin springs from Numrich, which had no extractors in stock.


I do know this much. Mine is in the 500,000 serial range so I estimate on my limited knowledge that it is a 1930ish or a little earlier (1927?) 9mm commercial gun that has been reworked and refinished. It has some fire bluing and what appears to be a straw finished hammer and a few other parts. The bolt is in the raw. It also has perhaps a hot blued frame and barrel, trigger... etc There was some pitting on the side of the magazine well prior to refinishing so it's been blued over. There is a small "Mauser" banner stamping in the square on one side. Overall, it's a pretty nice refinish. Serials look the same except for 2 parts. The slide catch? and one other internal I can't recall. Sorry... I'm no authority on these as yet. I just bought the gun and I'm reading and learning. It has repro Red-9 grips. It came with the repro butt stock with it's leather frog, cleaning rod, and a couple 10 round stripper clips. So it's a not very collectable slightly hodge-podged refinished non matching Broom Handle made up to look like a Red-9...um...shooter. The internal wear looks minimal and I doubt it has seen much firing since the rework. I bought it as a curio-relic, not a collectable investment and I plan to use it to augment my historic military firearms display at gun shows now and then. I like it for it's strange design and I wanted to dissect it's design and machining. I wasn't really interested in paying thousands for an Honest to God matching, all original example. Let's face it, you only realize the monetary value of a collectable when you sell it off and I never sell a gun anyway.


I remember when I was a "coffee table" FFL dealer in the mid 80's until the Clinton Crime Family took power and began hardassing the FFL holders like myself by weaponizing the ATF against us,( Just like they are still doing with the IRS, FBI and the Intel networks. But don't get me started...)
every wholesaler like SOG, Century Arms Intl. etc back then were hawking Red-9's by the drove, which I now suspect were guns like this one I have dolled up and with re-pro Red 9 grips. I never bought one but they were obviously not the real Red-9s given the fact that what, maybe 135,000 sequentially numbered real Red-9's actually were delivered out of the 150,000 ordered. Ya so... I'm happy with this gun, I know what it is. I intend to play with and shoot it a few times. I'm looking for some original grips without the 9 on them. There are some on eBay at ~$150.00.

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you help me identify this Bolo?
« on: November 06, 2021, 07:48:33 PM »
Sight markings. I might add the SN looks like 1923-1930 mfg. per old guns.com

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you help me identify this Bolo?
« on: November 06, 2021, 07:38:33 PM »
Right side

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Re: Can you help me identify this Bolo?
« on: November 06, 2021, 07:25:06 PM »
Left Side

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Can you help me identify this Bolo?
« on: November 06, 2021, 07:24:03 PM »




My serial is 587887. My gun has the Mauser Banner on the left side in the center of the milled square. Now, I'm wondering if it is in fact a 9mm vs other option. I just got this piece today so I'm pretty ignorant on it. In time I will learn but I've never had a Bolo before.


All the numbers I can see without disassembly match except the Bolt Stop which has a partially obliterated number which I believe is 484 on the top. It's missing the extractor which is the new style and 1.308" per the Numrich drawing. What have I got here. It came with a Repro holster and butt stock, cleaning rod, a couple 10 and strippers.


What is the best way to confirm the chambering? I appreciate any information you fellows might have.

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C96 / C12 Broomhandle / Can you recommend an experienced C-96 gunsmith?
« on: November 06, 2021, 05:51:11 PM »
I may need to have an extractor made for my C-96. Unless anyone knows where I can find one. So does anyone know that guy?

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Hi everyone, I just purchased a Red 9 C-96 Bolo but it is missing the extractor. I've searched the web and I'm not able to find one from the obvious places Like Numeric etc. The one I need is the New Style 1.380". Does anyone know of any sources or does anyone here have one for sale? I would be happy with a new production if anyone is making them. I really appreciate the help. This is my first Bolo so I didn't know it was missing this part until I did some study. Near as I can tell so far the mfg. is 1921-1930. It has the Mauser Banner stamped on the left side of the frame just ahead of the safety. Serials all match #5878XX.

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Hi. Thanks! I appreciate it. I did locate and order a complete trigger on Numrich. I still need the disconnector. I have been looking online and I found a place called Jack First Gun Parts in Rapid City SD who does some new production parts for these guns but they are out of stock on the Disconnectors for the .32/ 7.65. I certainly appreciate the information and I look forward to hearing from you soon. Please PM me when you get home and we can see if you have what I need. I have since bought 2 more Mausers in online auctions. I have 5 now. The latest ones are a 6.35mm and a 7.65mm. I don't have them yet as they are being shipped. I'm hoping one will arrive today. I tell ya... this is addictive.

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Model 1914 Pistol / Re: Loaded chamber safe for carry?
« on: December 09, 2018, 01:01:59 AM »
I totally agree. This isn't the gun to take to a gun fight with the options available to us today. They are great to tinker with, collect and shoot on the range but low power for defense purposes, especially the .25 version. Yes, they will kill but placement has to be perfect. And the magazine changes are slow at best. Choose a modern handgun for concealed carry defense in a caliber sufficient to win the fight God forbid it happens and with sufficient capacity to engage multiple attackers. Where there is one bad guy, very often his buddy isn't far away. Also a modern design that allows for fast for magazine changes. These guns are called curio/relics for a reason. They are museum pieces, not modern defensive handguns. A small amount of money buys a new S&W M&P with a spare magazine in .40 cal. But, if a 1914 Mauser is all you have....sell it to me and buy a new gun with money left over.   

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Hello. I'm new here.


 I'm looking for a disconnector and a trigger catch/sear or a complete trigger. I just purchased an early post war .32 commercial 1914 model with serial #254480. I took the side plate off to disassemble for a complete internal inspection and cleaning. It is missing the disconnector, part number 22 on the Numrich schematic. Also Part 23, the Trigger catch (trigger sear per Numrich- the internal pinned with spring part of the trigger assembly) has a small chunk out of its engagement face and probably should be replaced. While I can't be sure, under magnification it looks like it may have been built up with weld and then reshaped by filing but an incomplete weld build up looks like a small piece is broken out of the back corner of the catch face. The function is fine but I don't trust it. A complete trigger would be fine as well. All the other internals look very good. 


This gun is police marked with S.Me.IV.II.2. stamped on the front grip frame. The IV is has an X stamped over it.  Mr Pender's book says the Police markings are for the most part not decrypted as to what they mean. Does anyone know what these markings actually meant? It also has 1920 stamped on the left side of the slide just over the top of the Mauser address line. It is lightly stamped and not done by Mauser. On the slide there is another interesting stamp. It is very small requiring a strong magnifier to appreciate its stylized detail. If you take the slide off and hold it upside down with the front up as if you are looking at the internal surface of it, the stamping is located on the face of the righthand (as you are looking at it) slide rail so only seen with the slide off. It looks like the letter P with an M over top of it or maybe one leg of the M woven through the P. There is an incomplete one stamped on the frame also on a place not seen unless the grip is off. Possibly a milling acceptance quality control inspection stamp? I have not seen this stamp before on my other guns but this is my only police gun. Maybe it is specific to police acceptance? Any ideas on these stampings? This gun has its serial number stamped in full or partial on 5 different parts. Slide, frame, barrel, safety lever and ejector/slide lock. I have not seen this on my other guns either. Mr Pender's book says the front sight should be a ramp but it is the 1/2 moon. The barrel is correctly, un-banded per Mr Pender's book page 118.


Thanks for your help.

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Model 1914 Pistol / Re: Looking for mauser 1914 ejector/hold open
« on: December 09, 2018, 12:04:00 AM »
If Burgess Doesn't have one that will work I will look through my spare parts. I might have one.


Hi Pardt and H-Bar. I'm looking for a disconnector. I just purchased an early post war .32 commercial 1914 model of serial #254480. I took the side plate off to disassemble for a complete internal inspection and cleaning. It is missing the disconnector, part number 22 on the Numrich schematic. Also Part 23 the Trigger sear has a small bite out of it and probably should be replaced. While I can't be sure, under magnification it looks like it may have been built up with weld and then shaped by filing but an incomplete build up looks like a small piece is broken out of the back corner of the sear. The function is fine but I don't trust it. A complete trigger would be fine as well. All the other internals look very good. 


This gun is police marked with S.Me.IV.II.2. stamped on the front grip frame. The IV is has an X stamped over it.  Mr Pender's book says the Police markings are for the most part not decrypted as to what they mean. Does anyone know what these markings actually meant? On the slide there is an interesting stamp. It is very small. If you take the slide off and hold it upside down with the front up as if you are looking at the internal surface of it, the stamping is located on the face of the righthand slide rail so only seen with the slide off. It looks like the letter P with an M over top of it or maybe one leg of the M woven through the P. There is an incomplete one stamped on the frame also on a place not seen unless the grip is off. Possibly a milling acceptance quality control inspection stamp. I have not seen this stamp before on my other guns but this is my only police gun. Maybe it is specific to police acceptance?


I'll open this in a new thread as well since the window here is advising me to do so. Thanks for your help.

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