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Pistols => Model HSC Pistol => Topic started by: Josefius on March 25, 2015, 08:44:01 PM

Title: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on March 25, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
I picked this up a few days ago, I believe it's a 1942 HSc with a serial number of 803xxx. It has the eagle over N on the slide, barrel and on the bottom right trigger guard, but no waffenampt on the left trigger guard.
Hi, I'm new here, but I want to share this Mauser HSc I picked up with the serial number 803280 a few days ago, I believe it was made in 1942. It's a commercial model, since it doesn't have a waffenampt on the left lower trigger guard. It does have the eagle over n on the right trigger guard, front slide and the barrel. I'm just curious how rare it is.


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Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on March 26, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
Joe,

Thanks for sharing your nice photos of your new HSc example.  "Warbird" is the authoritative resource on the subject and he can provide you the best answer that you seek.  I enjoyed seeing your photos and had to chime in with my congratulations to you.  Have your checked to see, if the slide and barrel have matching serial numbers?  If you have trouble finding them, just say so.  Just a question. What is on the bottom of your mag base, if anything?  Also, I like your choice of cleaning tools as seen in your photo.  Where did you get those nice picks? 

Jim   
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on March 26, 2015, 06:51:46 PM
All serial numbers match, there is nothing on the bottom of the magazine, which I thought was strange. I thought at least it should have the Mauser logo. I got the polymer gun tools from amazon, I just did a search and read the reviews. They work pretty well for me. Thanks :)
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Warbird on March 26, 2015, 07:06:39 PM
Welcome to the forum, Josefius!
Your HSc was indeed made in 1942 ... November to be precise.  It is a common Commercial variation which accounted for about 24% of the total Mauser HSc production.  Most of the production went to the Army (54%), then Commercial (24%), followed by Police (12%) and finally the Navy (11%).  You can view production by year in the attachment to my Sticky, "HSc Production Chart".

This example is somewhat worn with a chip off the right Grip Panel.  The blank Floorplate on your Magazine is entirely appropriate for this Peak Wartime vintage.  I would place the value at between $500 and $600.  Anything else, let me know.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on March 26, 2015, 07:13:44 PM
Thanks Warbird, Im curious about how to remove the safety lever to remove the firing pin for cleaning. I looks like it would be similar in how the Walther PPK would be, by turning the lever half way. Any pointers would be appreciated, since I know how fragile the fireing pins are.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Warbird on March 26, 2015, 08:04:33 PM
I wouldn't recommend removing the Firing Pin for cleaning.  However, if you must, you will have to use two small screwdrivers to push the Firing Pin and Safety Barrel Plunger (on the Extractor side) slightly forward to clear the Safety Barrel.  Then pull the Safety Lever out of the Slide.  Reassembly would be the opposite procedure.

CAUTION:  If you lose control of the Safety Plunger, its Spring and the Extractor Plunger could come out and be lost.  Also the Extractor may drop out of the Slide.  Again, I wouldn't recommend doing it unless the Firing Pin is broken and must be replaced.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on March 27, 2015, 09:22:27 AM
Joe,

If you do this operation, let me know how successful you were.  I am with Warbird on this 100%.  I also don't recommend this.  All types of bad things can happen.  They did to me!  Good luck, if you are brave enough.

Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on March 27, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
I took her to the range today with some 7,65 Browning 73 grain ammo. Shot flawlessly. However, I noticed that it doesn't go into full battery with a round with the safety on when inserting a magazine. When I disengage the safety and insert a magazine and the slide closes, it works just fine. As well as firing an entire magazine, it works great. It also gives me decent hammer bite, I don't know if it's because I have large hands or I'm not holding it tight enough to control recoil. I will not be touching the firing pin and safety switch, it works just fine. I should probably get some after market grips and put the originals away for safe keeping. Here's more pictures:


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Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on March 27, 2015, 04:02:11 PM
Good idea about the aftermarket grip idea!

Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on March 29, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
I have a question, Is it normal to have a problem chambering a round with the safety on? Both racking the slide and having the magazine close the slide on insertion fails to go into battery with a round, with the safety off, it functions fine. maybe the magazine needs cleaning? Or is that as intended?
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on March 29, 2015, 06:13:06 PM
You may think this a strange answer to your question.  I am a collector of the HSc.  I purchased an example or two for my son to shoot in the "shooter grade catagory" and I have fired his HSc only once.   That means I am not qualified to respond.  I am sure some shooters on the forum will jump in.  Hope your hand is recovering.  That looked like it hurt.




Jim   
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Warbird on March 30, 2015, 12:07:59 AM
No it's not normal.  The problem has to go back to the extended cams on the Sear.  If you could take the Slide off and post a good picture of the Sear I might be able to help.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on April 02, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
No it's not normal.  The problem has to go back to the extended cams on the Sear.  If you could take the Slide off and post a good picture of the Sear I might be able to help.

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Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on April 02, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
I am looking forward to Warbird's observation.  Nice photos. 


Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Warbird on April 10, 2015, 05:45:31 PM
The Firing Pin looks like it's installed upside down.  Other than that, everything else looks OK.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on April 16, 2015, 08:31:12 PM
dang, maybe I should fix that.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on August 01, 2015, 07:49:57 PM
I took it to a gunsmith, when the pistol is in safe, the firing pin sticks out about a millimeter and hangs up on the round when chambering. Maybe the firing pin isn't original?
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on August 01, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
I agree with Warbird.  Your firing pin is not installed in the normal position.

Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on August 01, 2015, 09:12:49 PM
I think it only goes one way because of the detent and groove in the firing pin.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on August 01, 2015, 10:26:35 PM
I just checked mine.  Yours is in upside down. 
Good luck getting it right side up.  That will take an uninstall then reinstall. 
Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: pardt on August 02, 2015, 08:45:28 PM
In answer to your earlier question about the slide bite on your hand I have fired several of mine and never had that happen. I would say its quite likely your hand size
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on November 07, 2015, 11:45:33 AM
I found a firing pin for the .32 Mauser HSc, had it installed and found that the old firing pin was loose, the main block and the pin itself was moving back and forth. The new pin didn't have the two circular pins on the bottom of the firing pin block (center piece of the firing pin) and was blued. Now when the safety is on, it doesn't protrude from the breech. I will test fire it tomorrow morning and let you guys know how it functions.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on November 07, 2015, 12:01:28 PM
Sounds like you got the correct firing pin.  Good luck at the range.

Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on November 08, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
I took it out to the range tonight, it chambers a round with the safety on, it decocks with a round in the chamber (safety on pull trigger) without firing :)  I shot two boxes of 50 Aguilla .32 and only had one FTF, I'm guessing it was the round or a fluke, since I've never had one before, but I haven't had much experience with this brand, just S&B (Sellier & Bellot). I'm pretty happy, my favorite vintage pistol now.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on November 09, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Did your hand get hurt on the slide coming back?

Jim
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: Josefius on November 09, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Did your hand get hurt on the slide coming back?

Jim

Only if I hold it higher, I also have a pair of Mechanix shooting gloves.
Title: Re: 1942 Mauser HSc
Post by: jcorl on November 09, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
I like those gloves.,  I never thought about using them, while shooting.  Thanks for the idea.

Jim