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Rifles => Argentine 1891 Rifle => Topic started by: Diane on April 17, 2014, 01:32:18 PM

Title: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: Diane on April 17, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
I am in the process of purchasing a really nice Argentine mauser model 1891. It has a serial number of B7058. Does anyone have any idea when this rifle was manufactured? Thanks.
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: mike9905 on August 08, 2014, 09:31:20 PM
Can't help you with the serial number.  In the early 1960's Interarms imported a large quantity of these rifles arsenal refinished to new condition, with the exception that the Argrentine crest had been ground off the receiver ring.  They had racks full of these rifles in their retail store, Potomac Arms.  The price was $19.95.  I wish for a time machine. 
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: jcorl on January 23, 2015, 05:43:09 PM
I bought one, but I think I gave $25.00 for it.  I guess I got ripped.

Jim
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: inline on March 11, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
I'm sure this answer is only of historical interest now, but that S/N was manufactured in 1892, and is of the first 25,000 of the order for 50,000 placed the year before.  That year they made from A0000 to C4999. 
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: jcorl on August 29, 2015, 11:08:19 AM
I have S7185.  Can you tell me production date? Thank you.
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: inline on August 29, 2015, 06:28:27 PM
So S7185 was part of the 1899 order of 53,000 rifles, and that year they manufactured from O5000 to T7999, so yours would have been made in the fall of 1899.

I found this on pg 109 of Colin Webster's excellent book, "Argentine Mauser Rifles 1871-1959", which I highly recommend you buy and read - very much worth it.

Best,
Kevin
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: jcorl on August 29, 2015, 07:13:05 PM
My poor gun has really been butchered.  The end has been cut off, so I need to re crown the barrel.  I really appreciate the information.  Someone took a grinder to the top of the rifle in order to mount a scope.  It has had a hard life.  It has shacking hands proofs all over it.  They seems strange. 

Jim
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: inline on August 29, 2015, 07:43:04 PM
Actually the ground-off Coat of Arms was done by the Argentine military itself... a few had been sold to Chile, and some Chileans shot a few Argentinians, and were captured, and the soldiers were very upset that they were being shot at by their own guns (which at the time was the finest military rifle in the world), and so from then on all the rifles sold had their Coat of Arms ground off... mine is the same way.

The book explains all the symbols... the shaking hands for instance is a symbol of the uniting of the southern provinces.  It is found in seven locations.  MB in script is the test-firing mark, and there is also a Frigian Cap, Rising Sun, Oval, Anchor, Half-Moon, Four Point Star, Buckle, Five Point Star, Cross, Flattened Oval, Triangle, a different Four Point Star, and a Circle.

But too bad about the shortened barrel...  ruined for collecting purposes but still cool to own.  I paid $650 for mine last year, pretty much in perfect condition, but lightly fired. 

K
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: jcorl on August 29, 2015, 08:21:58 PM
Very kind of you to share your knowledge.  I am going to do my best to rehabilitate it into a shooter.  Have a nice evening and thanks again for sharing your knowledge about this nice gun.  Jim
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: inline on August 31, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
Here is one that has a shortened barrel and shortened stock, and still estimated for 100-200 with matching numbers and a re-attached front sight.


http://morphyauctions.hibid.com/lot/21114290/--model-1891-argentine-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-?cat=0&sort=1&hide=0&qs=0&view=0&aView=0&q=mauser&selCat=0


This auction house is very very conservative with estimates... most things 2x their estimates so maybe 200-400 is what it will really sell for.  Might be an interesting item to watch.


Of course the pictures are small, and there are no pics of the parts we'd like to see - the shortened barrel or the coat of arms...  I've been to this auction before and the pics are always like that.


-K
Title: Re: Argentine mauser model 1891
Post by: jcorl on September 01, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
Just spent the last two hours looking at the auction lots.  Thank you for that good information.

Jim