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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late Phosphate HSc
« on: August 12, 2019, 04:01:57 PM »
I agree with your conclusions, i.e., the Grips were produced in the Post-War era with poor materials.  They do have some significance as an artifact of that period so if you ever replace them with wood or plastic, I would retain them in your collection.

French records of German production in the final months of the war recorded 2,310 HSc pistols produced in March (refer to p.25 in your book).  That would come in at around serial number 950489 (German Army Acceptance mark).

As to your pistol, it was a new addition to our database (thanks for sharing!).  I do not believe it ever left the factory until the French probably put it to use or traded it to a G.I. as war booty.  I think that's all your questions for now, if anything else comes to mind, let me know ... I'm always available.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late Phosphate HSc
« on: August 11, 2019, 07:56:19 PM »
Your Late Wartime HSc was assembled in April 1945 and French records do not support your theory, i.e., Mauser was still under German control so it must have been in early April before the French occupation.

This HSc would be categorized as Commercial since there are no Acceptance marks and it joins many other Commercials at this time until the end of production that were not marked.  You are very close to the end which was serial number 951939.

I am curious to know why you think the Grips are not original.  I tend to agree but I would like to know your conclusions.  Anything else, let me know.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Engraved Postwar HSC
« on: July 15, 2019, 02:40:18 PM »
Wouldn't this embellishment be more correctly identified as "acid etched" rather than "engraved"?

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Model HSC Pistol / Kriegsmarine Inspection Offices
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:15:39 PM »
During World War II, the German Wartime Navy or Kriegsmarine typically stamped an Eagle/M Property Mark on most items that were used in the naval service. In addition, Acceptance Marks were applied to military equipment by inspection offices, known as Marine Abnahme Kommando, located at various manufacturing facilities (similar to those of the Heereswaffenamt).

As background, the Marinewaffenamt (MWa) or Naval Weapons Office had oversight responsibility for purchased military equipment. It consisted of five Departments:
 MWa I – (Berlin) Cannons over 37mm or 1½”
 MWa II – (Magdeburg and Kiel) Ship’s Artillery
 MWa III – (Düsseldorf) Pistols, Flare Pistols, Spare Parts, Ammunition
 MWa IV – (Nuremberg) Optics
 MWa V – (Vienna and Brünn) Precision Engineering, Navigational Instruments

From those Departments, our research has identified the following inspection offices through their Acceptance Marks:
 Eagle/M III/2 – Gerbrüder Thiel Artillary Illumination Shell Timer Fuse
 Eagle/M III/3 – Walther Flare Pistols
 Eagle/M III/8 – Mauser HSc Pistols (December, 1940 to November, 1944)
 Eagle/M IV/1 – Zeiss Binoculars, Telescopes
 Eagle/M IV/5 – Unknown Manufacturer of Wood Box from U-Boat (for Optics Storage?)
 Eagle/M IV/8 – Nederlandse Instrumenten Compagnie (Nedinsco/Zeiss) Rangefinder
 Eagle/M V/2 – Unknown Manufacturer of Pivoting Handle (for Instrument Adjustment?)

From the data, it is obvious that many of the inspection offices have not been identified but the basic structure of the Marinewaffenamt is evident.  A typical HSc Property Mark engraved on the frontstrap of the grip and an Acceptance Mark stamped on the left side of an HSc trigger guard web are shown below.

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Holster Forum / Re: Opinion on holster? HSc maybe
« on: June 08, 2019, 04:01:26 PM »
You are absolutely correct that it is an HSc KM pattern but probably Post-War Commercial.  Then again, I'm no expert on leather goods!  A reminder that the Navy did not purchase any HSc after November 1944 which probably means any real KM Holster would be dated before that.

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General Discussion / Re: Help Downsizing Photo Attachments
« on: June 07, 2019, 04:54:48 AM »
If you are unable to adjust the resolution on your camera, any photo type software can reset the size of your photos.  I use an old version of Jasc Paint Shop to accomplish this.  My ideal width on this site is 650 pixels.  If you look at my HSc "sticky" on Instruction Manuals, note the width and you can see how this fits the screen.

There is also a limitation of four on the number of attachments allowed per post.  If more photos are to be posted simply start a new post with each batch of four.  Again, you can see on the "sticky" how I handled this.

Hope that helps you.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc magazine question
« on: May 27, 2019, 08:48:27 PM »
Very strange (can't imagine what its purpose could be) but it does remind me of the Magazine Release Slot on a Walther PP series Pistol Magazine.  Perhaps it was modified to be used in a Walther.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Silver inlay HSc
« on: May 13, 2019, 02:35:30 PM »
How long before it's in your hands?  Looking forward to better pictures and your observations!

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Yes you did but no picture at the time.  As usual, great photography that updated the database description.  Thank you!

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Thank you!  Fills in a blank space.  Appreciate you taking the time to get it to me.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: WWII gripplates?
« on: March 14, 2019, 11:31:37 AM »
They appear to be correct Wartime vintage.

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General Mauser Pistol Questions / Re: Mauser Flare Gun
« on: February 20, 2019, 10:07:06 PM »
Very good, Gerben.  For those inquisitive minds, Heym was established in 1865.  Rich and interesting history on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heym_(gun_manufacturer)

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"Are the post World War II pistols less apt to have the vast amount of feeding problems, especially .380.
I would be surprised if they did as military and police needed reliable pistols."

The vast majority of European Police and Personal Military firearms were in .32 caliber.  The HSc market was based on this and it was designed for the .32.  The late 1960s to 1970s production added the .380 to expand its market primarily in the U.S.

The HSc in .380 pushed the design to the limit of it's operating envelope and resulted in an abnormally high parts breakdown and/or weakness in feeding and ejections.

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General Discussion / Re: Happy 2019!
« on: December 31, 2018, 03:32:43 PM »
And the same to you, Gerben.  Happiness is a new (old) Mauser!

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Production Chart
« on: November 28, 2018, 09:16:39 AM »
Your Late Wartime Commercial HSc was produced in December 1943.  Value as you described the pistol is between $600 and $700.  Hope that answers your questions.  Anything else, please let me know.

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