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rob67gt:
Warbird,

I continue to "lurk" out there more than contribute due to my personal demands but remain committed to the HSc.  Peter advised me of the change in format here on MauserGuns.com and the fact that you were now moderating the HSc section.  You were the already the unofficial moderator in the previous format and the new format is a pleasant surprise - CONGRATS.

I know you have maintained a database for years.  I was curious if you have ever recorded a phosphate E/F?  I recently acquired a late E/F (March 1945 production) which is still in military blue finish.  Personally, I have never seen anything but Army-proofed, phosphate-finished versions of the HSc.  Just curious.

I will strive to improve my photography skills and set aside some time to hopefully contribute more.....more likely when the weather becomes less pleasant.

Best regards - Rob

Warbird:
Welcome back, Rob!  It's always a pleasure to have the more experienced and enthusiastic HSc collectors (re)join the rest of us here.  We look forward to your contributions in the future.

Now to your question ... there are NO 1945 phosphate Police Eagle/F examples in the database.  Most Police HSc's are mated with black plastic Grips.  As you may recall, the German Police were the first to officially document the plastic Grips in 1941, although they were only found on Army and Commercial variations that year.  Police usage began in January 1942.

If you refer to Reply #7 in the "HSc Production Chart" sticky, you can see that phosphate was the primary finishing used in most of the 1945 production except Police.  Hope that helps and let me know if there is anything else.

rob67gt:
Thanks for the information and kind words Warbird.  Experience just means I am getting old, you and Peter are the real die hards.  I'm fortunate today as both the wife and I are off.  That means the lil' guy is under supervision while I wrestle with brake repairs on my pickup.....

Anyway, perhaps you can clear up my question if I provide a little more detail.  As I said, I have two E/F HSc both produced in about March of 1945 (Serial #s 947675 and 948113 if my spreadsheets are correct).  They are both military blue though I believe the later number has some phosphate parts [trigger and safety I think]).  Now I'm curious if the data base has phosphate E/F versions before and/or after this production time?  My phosphate is an Army in the late 949... series projected to be April '45 production. I suspect that the phosphate E/F are all in the very late production but have no proof of this just conjecture based on my observations.  I would love to see a pic of a late phosphate E/F if a member has one.

I rarely stumble across the "bakelite" grip versions in person and see most of them on the net.  Now always suspect as the repro grips are out there.



Lunch is over...back to work!

Thanks again.

Warbird:
Rob, I modified my previous answer to you.  There are no Eagle/F Police phosphate finished HSc's recorded in the database.  My mistake ... must be having a senior moment here, although what I said about the plastic/bakelite Grips is correct.  That doesn't mean there weren't any Police phosphates, just that none have been reported so it's an open issue.

rob67gt:
Another version for me to hunt down.  ;)   I'm guessing the Army took precedence over other organizations that late in the war.  It is really surprising that they were still marking with organizational proofs at all at that point.  If someone out there does have an E/F phosphate I would really appreciate seeing some pics of it.

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