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New member looking at a 1914 7.65mm

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GonzoGeezer:
Hello all, first time poster.



I have an opportunity to purchase an early 1914 7.65 with one mag and a holster.  The seller says it has a German Imperial Army acceptance stamp and a serial number in the 32000 range. The finish looks pretty good for a 100 year old.  Seller says it shoots, the bore is clean but not shiny. And a little bit of rust/pitting under the trigger guard. The holster looks too new to be contemporary with the gun, which I assume dates somewhere around 1915(?).   I'm going to inspect it Friday.


Here's a photo.





Opinions?


I know nothing about these pistols other than the few blurbs on the interwebz from unblinkingeye, world guns, etc. Any suggestions on what to look for during the inspection would be greatly appreciated.


-gonzo

1914mauser:
Look for Matching numbers, correct split or T-tail magazine base. The holster could be from WWI era, look for markings. Value, I just sold an Imperial marked 1914 for $550 w/o holster so there is some idea on that. It looks nice and if it has the Imperial marking in front of thhe rear sight it is an early Imperial. Good luck!
 
 

GonzoGeezer:

--- Quote from: 1914mauser on September 18, 2013, 11:33:33 AM ---Look for Matching numbers, correct split or T-tail magazine base. The holster could be from WWI era, look for markings. Value, I just sold an Imperial marked 1914 for $550 w/o holster so there is some idea on that. It looks nice and if it has the Imperial marking in front of thhe rear sight it is an early Imperial. Good luck!

--- End quote ---


The photo suggests a square front on the base, which I believe is correct for the 1914.  I will definitely check for the cuts.


I have noticed in other photos the serial on the left front slide and back of the frame. Are those the only two areas?


Thanks, gonzo
 

1914mauser:
Ckeck the side plate (inside the trigger guard and pull the slide back 1/4 " to see serial number on front barrel lug on left side. In these locations are partial serial numbers (the last 3 or 4 digits of the number).
 
 

GonzoGeezer:
I inspected the piece this morning...and bought it for $375. I found four serial numbers, all matching.  There are three acceptance stamps behind the rear sight (crown, crown, U) and one in front that I cannot suss out.  I'll try to match it to something in the proof mark documents on the interwebz.  Holster is vintage but no stamps or marks except for four handwritten letters under the flap that I cannot decipher.  I'm guessing it's a any-32 holster.  It's had a repair, one of the belt loops had to be reattached.


Overall I think the gun looks very nice.  Better bluing retention on the left than the right.  Barrel is very clean if a bit dull in color.  Grip has some wear but no cracks, just a few small gouges on the butt. Magazine does have surface rust but no pitting.  Some freckling under the trigger guard and on the back of the slide around the cocking indicator. 


I will try to get some decent photos if there is any interest.  I will strip, lube (with Ballistol, natürlich) and then she goes to the range for some light exercise.


My thanks for the information exchange.  A nice introduction to the board and some of it's inmates.

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