Pistols > Model HSC Pistol
Can someone tell me the lack of factory codes on HSc"s
Biker86:
I don't think the Sauer 38Hs or the Walther PPKs were marked with an Ordinance Code either. Only about 20,000 of the more than 200,000 Walther PPs made during the war had the AC code. And that didn't start until near the end of the war in late 1944 or early 1945.
The answer to this question may also explain why most of the other German made WWII 7.65mm pistols don't have an Ordinance Code.
donp326:
Biker86 you may have something there. I would have thought thought, the folks who were in control of the Ordinance Code would have enforced it's use on all other guns as well. If there was disarray in transportation and anything else it may have affected the codes in question. However, it didn't affect Mauser changing to SVW in 1945. If the German developed the Ordinance codes to keep the Plant ID from being detected, they sure blew it with leaving the complete stamp on the Mauser HSc. Also with the Sauer HS or the Walther PPK and most of the PP''S. I would have thought the Germans would have included these guns into the Ordinance code scheme too. It was almost like and after thought with some of the PP's. I would have thought the Germans being so meticulous in most areas would not have let this thing slip though the cracks.
vlim:
Ordnance codes were only used on guns that were officially accepted by the military and as such they were subject to the regulations that were stated in the acceptance agreement.
Since there was no acceptance agreement for the HSc, there was no need to hide anything. Also note that wartime C96 pistols, M1934 pistols and even M1914 pistols during WW1 all retained their normal commercial markings. Again because there was no official army acceptance agreement for them.
donp326:
Thanks Vlim That answers it pretty well. Sound like a rather convoluted system to me.
jcorl:
OK. I am officially confused. That does not take much, I might add. If there was no acceptance agreement in place on the HSc, then why would there be Heer acceptance stamps on the HSc? (to include the military test proof or ATP, in early examples)
Just asking.
Jim
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