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Mauser HSc Serial#728897
abd_sami:
Hello All,
I am new to this forum and first of all I would like to thank everyone who has given such huge amount of information regarding HSc (especially the moderators). Really appreciate it.
Now coming to point, my father has HSc with Serial#728897. I am looking for some information regarding the history for this particular piece.
The guns was passed on to my father from my grandfather. My grandfather bought this gun in India in 1964. Have a few queries
Q1. From the serial number chart this gun seems to be manufactured in 1941. Is it possible to find in which month and where in Germany was this gun manufactured?
Q2. I do not recall it had any markings on the trigger guard so I am assuming its a commercial pistol. Though I am not sure about it. In short, what markings can we check quickly to see which division the guns belonged to (army, police etc.)? Do not have it at hand so cant post any pictures as off now. Will do once it available.
Q3. How did this gun end up coming to India? Were there any agreements between India to import from Mauser.
Q4. In many posts I have read that it would be bad for the guns condition to keep in the original leather holster. What are the ways this gun can be stored safely. If recall correctly my grandfather and father have been keeping the guns in the holster from beginning as it was the original one
Sorry for the long thread but would appreciate the responses.
Thanks,
Abd Sami
Warbird:
Welcome to the forum, Abd Sami. Please don't apologize for the length of your query ... I like a challenge although I don't know why you are getting all those [/size] markers. So to the answers:
Q1. Your HSc was produced in July 1941 at the Mauser factory in the city of Oberndorf am Neckar. That is in southern Germany near the French and Swiss borders.
Q2. The left side of the Trigger Guard could be stamped with an Eagle/655 for Army or an Eagle/L for Police. Based on your India story though, it could very well be Navy marked with an Eagle/Swastika/M on the front Grip Strap and nothing on the left side Trigger Guard.
Q3. There were no trade agreements with India by Mauser that I am aware of. As I mentioned above, best guess would be that a Navy ship and equipment were abandoned there at the end of the war. We have documented proof of this type of action in Canada.
Q4. Yes, storing the pistol in a leather Holster could be detrimental to its finish with subsequent loss of value. After being cleaned and oiled, storage in a pistol case would be preferable although any place outside the Holster would be an improvement.
I look forward to hearing about the markings you find and any pictures you can post. If there is anything else, please let me know.
abd_sami:
Thanks a lot Warbird for your detailed replies. I think the reason for getting mark is I did a preview before posting. Will post this one without preview and hope this goes fine.
Regarding markings and photos, it may take sometime. May be couple of months as the gun is with my father.
For storing the pistol, actually I was looking for the exact way a gun collector would store it e.g. in a wooden box or a holster made of another material. How are you storing your prized HSc? :)
Also, I just read some posts that firing HSc is safe but may harm the pistol in the long run. My dad use to fire it once every 2 -3 years and it worked fine. I am assuming if we are planning to fire 6-7 shots continuously it may spell doom over gun.If we are not firing it regularly wouldn't the inner parts get jammed.
Warbird:
Good questions but the answers are as varied as the individual collector. For instance, are you a true collector with 10's or 100's of firearms or just one, what means of security do you need or have available, what type of climate do you live in, etc., etc. As a start, look at this website. It is typical of many others that offer a wide range of storage containers that can be used:
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/search.do?query=pistol+cases&sku_instock_b=true
Whether your pistol is a collector piece or family heirloom, shooting it could ultimately be detrimental to its condition and value. It is a machine and as long as it is properly cleaned and oiled it can be stored indefinitely without firing. If it is fired, parts may break that would be very difficult to replace ... after all, it is over 70 years old. Only you can make that determination.
I forgot to mention that if the Holster is WWII original, including a maker's mark, it may be of collector value also.
abd_sami:
Thanks again Warhead. I should have been more specific in my questions. So for my case we are only having one gun which is a family heirloom and needs to be stored safely.
After going through the link you shared, I think any modern day holster made of polystyrene like material should be good enough. Please correct me if I am wrong here. Point is, it has to be bought in India from a local gun shop as gun control is pretty strict here and imports are totally banned.
Can you also give brief summary of marking to check on the original holster like you did for the gun? Would really appreciate it.
Also, regarding the history as how this gun may have ended in India, I did a bit of research regarding gun control in India and found that gun imports were banned in 1980s. So it is possible that someone might have imported this during 1941-1964 time frame from when my grandfather brought it. Can't say for sure though?
As regarding your guess about the gun getting carried on from an abandoned ship I am not sure how feasible is that. My grandfather brought it northern part of India which is around 1300km away from the nearest coast.BTW, do we have any documented proof of any German ships getting abandoned in India.
Also, this point will only be applicable if the gun has the Navy acceptance mark? In case it is not present we can completely rule this point out, right?
I am just curious and not trying to undermine your educated guess here. So, please don't mind :)
Best Regards,
abd_sami
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