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Gray Ghost:
I need some input on a problem I am having with my HSc.  I purchased a Nice early war model w/ all the proper waffenampts and matching serial numbers along with it's holster.  There were two problems I noticed  when I got it.

The first was the trigger would not reset unless I let it snap forward quickly.  I solved that by replacing the trigger spring from a set of early war parts I fell into.

The second problem was that when the slide was locked back and I started to remove the magazine the slide would snap closed.  Solved that by replacing the Mag safety and it's tiny spring.  Function checked, now everything worked like it was suppose to.

The third problem is when I load 6 rounds in the magazine and insert it into the pistol, either the cartridge only feeds part way and jams or fails to feed.  The weird thing is sometimes I insert the mag and the slide stays locked back and does not move.  I don't understand this since I can insert  a empty mag and it shuts, so I would think a loaded mag would at least release the slide.  If I load 5 rounds in the mag the pistol feeds like it is suppose to some of the time.  If I load 4 or less the pistol feeds properly all of the time.  I have two mags.  the same thing happens with both.  The one is early war with the Mauser logo on the bottom and the other is a later war with the cresent indent.  I am thinking weak magazine  springs but I don't know.

I could sure use some help figuring this out.  THANKS.

Warbird:
Welcome, Gray Ghost.  I want to help you here but I'm getting mixed signals.  First of all, the Magazine trips the Magazine Safety to release the Slide and has nothing to do with the number of rounds loaded.  I suspect your feed problem comes from a weak Magazine Spring (as you suggested) or, more commonly, from a weak Recoil Spring.  So why don't you start there and replace them from Wolff's Gunsprings.

By the way, there is no "p" in "Waffenamt" and we like to share information, i.e., I help you with your problem and you share your serial number and HSc specifics with me.  Let me know what you will do next.

Gray Ghost:
Warbird,

Thanks for the imput.  I have a spare wartime spring and a Wolf recoil spring.  I'll install the Wolf spring in case the other war time spring has issues.  I have ordered 3 mag. springs from wolf and will install them as soon as they get here.  I'll post an update on the results.

I know that it makes no sense, but with 6 rounds in the mag sometimes, not always the slide would stay in the rearward position even when the mag was fully inserted.  I know logic dictates that should not happen, but it did.  If I understand how it works, the upper edge of the mag. body pushes up the front of the mag. safety which lowers the rear of the mag. safety and releases the slide.  When the slide did not close I would start to remove the mag. and the slide would snap forward like it may have been hung up.  That's the best way I can describe what happend. 

I know just enough to get me in trouble.  So far what I've done has been fairly simple since I have not had to do any real disassembly.

Let me know what you mean by HSc speciffics and I'll PM the info. to you.

Thanks for your time and patience.

Warbird:
OK, PM sent with specifics.  Meanwhile, check that there is no lateral play in the Magazine Safety, look for wear on the Safety end that engages the Slide, and for wear in the Slide notch.  Be sure the Safety is well lubricated for freedom of full movement.  Also be sure there is no impediment in the Magazine Well entrance that would hinder the Magazine from seating fully.  The Magazine has a 8-round capacity, how does it do with a full load?

Gray Ghost:
PM sent with info.

There is very little lateral play. I checked the end of the mag. safety were it goes up into the slide notch.  The is some bluing loss but no apparent wear.  I did find a little crude in the slide notch and cleaned that out.  I made sure to lube the mag. safety.

While I had the pistol apart I installed the new Wolf recoil spring.  Until it takes a set it is a real bear to get the barrel back in the slide.  There must be some trick that I don't know.

I pulled the mauser marked mag apart with some effort.  I cleaned the 1940's crude out of it and polished the follower and inside of the mag with fitz.  Still waiting on the new Wolf springs, so cleaned the original.  The mag. now is smooth as silk.  I can now load eight rounds and the slide closes like it should.  However, unless I smack the loaded mag home the cartridge will fail to feed.  Hopefully the new mag springs will help with that.

I did notice that I can load the mag. with 5 rounds and I am able to slide the rounds out with my thumb.  If I load 6 or more I have to take a wooden dowel to push the first few out.  I don't know if this is norml or once again a spring issue.  The lips of the mag. appear to be fine.

Thanks to your help Warbird , I am making progress.  Now if only those mag. springs would get here.....

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