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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 28, 2015, 08:51:56 PM »
I saw the original gun in question on gunbroker and my max bid was around $300 if that tells u anything about my opinion as to its finish originality.  Attached photo is my eagle f
Thanks, nice E/F.  No doubt in my mind about the GB auction. 

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 21, 2015, 12:24:07 AM »
Here are two close by, both with typical grip strap "ribbing" or "wash board" finish.  What does anyone else have close to these in the 946xxx - 948xxx range.

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Photos are everything in getting folks to offer opinions and comments.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:01:57 PM »
Jim, I agree with your suggestion.  Empirical data would be most useful.  Not sure how to proceed, except that I have an E/F example of my own to contribute. Is there any usefulness to "near by" serial numbers of non E/F guns?

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 16, 2015, 12:50:49 PM »
  . . .   I cannot hazard a guess at to what was going on in the factory with that small quantity of police output.  It is most odd . . . Jim 
Perhaps it points back to the possibility that the gun is refinished!

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 16, 2015, 08:58:44 AM »
Jim, the notion of “. . . two qualities . . .” of E/F would explain it, but it's hard for me to comprehend why there would be two different finishes on the E/F HSc in March / April 1945. Two finishes implies that someone felt that appearance of the weapon trumped expediency of manufacture, and at that point of the war, I’m not sure who would be making such a decision.  I’m not trying to be argumentative, just debating to learn.  IMO, a finish like that on 946817 just doesn’t’ fit the manufacturing of that point in the war.

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KAR 98K Rifle / Re: 8mm Mauser
« on: June 14, 2015, 04:15:42 PM »
I need to study it more to make a guess on the original rifle, but I can tell you the value is minimal.  It was a military rifle that someone converted to a sporter, by cutting down the stock and sanding / refinishing it.  Hope this is not a surprise, but it has no collector value.

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KAR 98K Rifle / Re: 8mm Mauser
« on: June 14, 2015, 02:31:06 PM »
More pictures are always helpful.  Rifles are always tough to photograph, but multiple clear photos of the various sections of the rifle will work.  Take them outside in bright but shaded sunlight.  It really helps. 

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KAR 98K Rifle / Re: 8mm Mauser
« on: June 14, 2015, 01:53:30 PM »
The receiver says it was made / refitted at the Fabrica De Armas La Coruña in 1946 (not sure I am seeing the year correctly at the angle of the photo).  These are usually found in 7.62x51 CETME (FR7) or 7.62x51 NATO (FR8).  I cant tell from your photo what you have.  Are you asking who converted it to 8mm, or what it was originally?

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Now Available: "The Mauser HSc Pistol"
« on: June 14, 2015, 01:21:02 PM »
Great publication.  Mine is (C) 2013 and I think a first edition.  Is there a second addition?  How substantive are the updates to the second edition?

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 14, 2015, 11:35:09 AM »
Agree with both comments, always hard to tell from photos.  But, the way the grip strap is polished, the depth of the serial number, and the overall color are red flags to me.  Every late war HSc I have seen has the "ribbed" look to the grip strap from the way the machining was completed.  Here is an example of an E/F pretty close in SN that sold on GB a couple of years ago.  I also have an E/F slightly later with the same "ribbed" look.


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Model HSC Pistol / Late War E/F - Refinished?
« on: June 13, 2015, 11:05:09 PM »
I waited until the GB auction was over to post, but am convinced that this late war E/F HSc, SN 946817, is obviously refinished.  I'm fortunate enough to have several close in SNs, and the machining on the grip strap in particular, as well as the overall finish, looks nothing like the GB gun.   The auction # is 486183849 and it sold for $1,225 this afternoon.  I sent an email to the Seller several days ago telling him I believed it was refinished, but he didn't respond.  Here is the photo from GB that convinced me.  I think there will be a very unhappy Buyer when he shows off his new acquisition and learns the truth.  Does anyone else agree with my conclusion?


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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Post-War French Acquisition
« on: December 15, 2014, 10:18:16 PM »
What a nice example.  Congratulations.  Your grip screws appear to be even phosphate.  Good job! Jim
Jim, thanks, yes, the screws are phosphate and don't look like they have had a screw driver in them since the gun was manufactured.  I'm really happy to have it.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Post-War French Acquisition
« on: December 15, 2014, 12:52:27 PM »
warbird, thanks, I only used the term rare based on the [Burnham / Theodore] book comment that post-war French HScs are usually in poor condition.  Perhaps I read too much into it.  In any case, I paid considerably less than $600, so am happy with the acquisition.  I also acquired a blued version with wood grips, that I will post at some point.  Thank you

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Model HSC Pistol / Post-War French Acquisition
« on: December 15, 2014, 10:14:09 AM »
Hi, my main focus is wartime guns, but I got a chance to acquire this at what I believe is a very reasonable price, and I bought it.  I researched it in the [very good] Mauser HSc Pistol Book Mauser (Burnham / Theodore), and I think it's legitimate and perhaps rare due to condition.  I'm looking for some feedback.  Thanks,

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