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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase
« on: May 14, 2013, 01:40:14 PM »
Now that's a confusing statement, Jim. How could more photos or lighting reveal something that's not there!
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase
« on: May 14, 2013, 09:11:34 AM »
It would be difficult to judge condition from photographs. I do see some pitting which would not be uncommon since the French sent many of these HSc's to their troops in tropical Southeast Asia (Vietnam). You have to be the judge of condition and to review, this is the general criteria:
Finish Condition Definition
99%+ Like New Like new condition.
98%-99% Excellent Very minor surface wear on high edges.
95%-98% Very Good Minor surface wear and defects.
85%-95% Good Moderate surface wear and defects.
25%-85% Fair Well worn but functional.
<25% Poor Non-functional parts gun.
Hope that helps.
Finish Condition Definition
99%+ Like New Like new condition.
98%-99% Excellent Very minor surface wear on high edges.
95%-98% Very Good Minor surface wear and defects.
85%-95% Good Moderate surface wear and defects.
25%-85% Fair Well worn but functional.
<25% Poor Non-functional parts gun.
Hope that helps.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase
« on: May 14, 2013, 04:04:12 AM »
Looks like we might be having a communication issue here, Martin. I never said there was supposed to be a serial number on the Slide, so I don't know where that came from. Only the wartime HSc had that marking and I don't see any in the photos.
Secondly, the WR stamp is on the LEFT side of the Trigger Guard web. I never said there was supposed to be a mark on the right side. Again, only the wartime HSc had a Test Firing Proof Mark (Eagle/N from the Ulm Proof House) on the right side.
And finally, from the photos it sure looks like this pistol has a blue finish and not phosphate. Are you sure it's not blue? So, bottom line, this HSc is a good example of Post-War production.
Secondly, the WR stamp is on the LEFT side of the Trigger Guard web. I never said there was supposed to be a mark on the right side. Again, only the wartime HSc had a Test Firing Proof Mark (Eagle/N from the Ulm Proof House) on the right side.
And finally, from the photos it sure looks like this pistol has a blue finish and not phosphate. Are you sure it's not blue? So, bottom line, this HSc is a good example of Post-War production.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase
« on: May 12, 2013, 10:46:56 PM »
A greenish tint to the finish is correct. This is called a "phosphate" finish. There will probably be (but not always) an intertwined "WR" final inspection mark on the left side of the Trigger Guard web just forward of the Grip. The correct vintage Magazine will have a half-moon indent at the forward end of the Floorplate or base. The Magazine will probably also have a phosphate finish to match the pistol.
That's about it. Looking forward to some pictures when you get it. Anything else, let me know.
That's about it. Looking forward to some pictures when you get it. Anything else, let me know.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Purchase
« on: May 12, 2013, 09:58:29 PM »
Hello tekmirko: This HSc was made at the Mauser-Werke in Oberndorf, Germany after World War II ended and while the factory was under French occupation/supervision in October 1945. Wartime serial numbers ended just below 952000. Most of these pistols ended up with the French Army, Police, or Foreign Legion.
If it is in really good condition and the serial number on the Barrel matches the last three numbers on the Frame, it's a steal at $250. Hope that helps.
If it is in really good condition and the serial number on the Barrel matches the last three numbers on the Frame, it's a steal at $250. Hope that helps.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Break Point
« on: May 10, 2013, 02:51:47 PM »
That's what I was thinking. Mauser stopped the Frame Web deep undercut (hollowing) during the Transitional Period in late 1942 by serial number 795 000. It's the only thing that makes sense although it doesn't explain why the crack only occurred on the right side.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Break Point
« on: May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 AM »
So it's on the Frame Rail forward of the Trigger and not the Slide. I haven't seen that before, Jim, and can't imagine what could have caused it. Is this high percentage you mention on Early Wartime HSc's with the deep undercut inside the Frame Web or Late Wartime with the shallow undercut?
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Break Point
« on: May 06, 2013, 06:40:01 PM »
Interesting observation, Jim. I was reviewing stress points on the rear of the Slide and the only thing I can see is behind the Firing Pin when it cocks the Hammer. Seems to me if hot loads were used and damage resulted, it would be evident at the front of the Slide around the Barrel Bushing area since that's where it would take the hardest hit. Maybe I don't understand the location you're describing. Sounds like you're talking about the rear end of the Slide Rail groove. Is that it?
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: HSc Production Chart
« on: May 01, 2013, 07:22:04 PM »
Hello Diane and Welcome!
Your HSc was made between 1968 and 1969.
Your HSc was made between 1968 and 1969.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Late War WaA135 Acquisition
« on: April 25, 2013, 02:16:44 AM »
Roger, your Late Wartime Army HSc was produced in March 1945 as documented by the French after their occupation of Mauser-Werke in mid-April of that year. It may have never left the factory since, according to Reichminister Albert Speer in his memoirs, transportation and distribution by that time in the war was almost non-existent.
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WTP / Re: WTP I & IIs
« on: April 24, 2013, 05:55:50 PM »
Absolutely! I have boxes of spare parts, Grips, Magazines, etc., for the HSc. Just in case because you never know ...
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WTP / Re: WTP I & IIs
« on: April 22, 2013, 08:18:36 PM »
Great stuff, Burgess! I keep a spare Magazine with all my HSc's as you do with your WTP's. Sort of "as issued or purchased".
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: BLACK HSc CARTONS
« on: April 22, 2013, 04:02:02 PM »
Interarms reseller cartons. I hadn't thought of that possibility but it makes sense considering the Wartime and Post-War pistols associated with it. For those interested, Interarms was founded by Samuel Cummings in 1953 and became one of the major resellers of surplus WWII firearms in the U.S., later establishing exclusive contracts with Mauser and Walther to import and sell their new production models beginning in the late 1960's.
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Model HSC Pistol / Re: My exelent HSc, made in 1941 i think...
« on: April 22, 2013, 03:39:59 PM »
Hello gebirg: My database shows this HSc as a Police (Eagle/L). Is that correct? It was made in October 1941.
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Model HSC Pistol / BLACK HSc CARTONS
« on: April 22, 2013, 03:06:30 AM »
Looking for any factual information about these black HSc boxes, specifically years produced. They are printed in English (for export?) and have been associated with both Wartime and Post-War pistols.