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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Rig: Early HSc KM!

« on: May 09, 2014, 10:40:51 PM »

Asle,

I finally made it back to the forum after my last comment.  Even forgot my password.  Wish I could spend more time here but am thankful for the time I can spend.  Anyway......

I did dig out a KM and checked other references.  It appears that the earlier KMs were marked higher on the front grip strap than the later examples.  I have to admit that I have stared at these for years and never really made that distinction.  So a worthwhile investigation!  Thanks for prompting it!!

As for the holster I can only say I have never seen one marked like that in the States through the years nor any of the multiple references I have.  Perhaps they were marked as such in Norway for some reason.  Multiple examples would support that theory.  The E/M111 marking is meant for arms based on information out there.  Perhaps one will show up at some point in the US.

One of my favorite features of the HSc is the consistency in markings and proofs throughout the models and various service branches.  I do view "exceptions" with increased suspicion.  That approach has served me well in building my collection.

Enjoy.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Rig: Early HSc KM!

« on: April 12, 2014, 04:12:44 PM »

Asle,

Did the holster and pistol come together?  The condition is superb!  Unfortunately, I do have questions on the holster proof.  At a minimum this is not the norm (have two and have seen quite a few).  This proof is consistent with arms but not leather goods.  In addition, though I have not pulled out my KMs but did check some reference books on my desk.  It appears the E/M is in an odd position, quite high on the front strap.  Again, this would be definite exception to the norm.  At first, glance the E/M seems a bit "funny" to me.  Difficult to gauge from photos sometimes.  Perhaps Warbird can place this serial in a group of KMs.....or not.  Don't want to rain on anyone's parade.  Love KMs and hope this is the real deal - just have concerns.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Name that tune, HSc style.

« on: February 08, 2014, 05:01:04 PM »

Donp326.  There are other police proofs but they were not used on the HSc.  For example E/K was used on the HSc cousin the CZ-27 and E/C used on the competitors at Walther.  Interesting E/"L" variation jcorl.

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General Mauser Rifle Questions / Re: Help with Identification...

« on: January 08, 2014, 06:00:13 PM »

Venezuelan 7x57.  Nice Weapons.  As Sarge indicated, based on the German 98 action.  Enjoy.

Rob

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: August 14, 2013, 09:21:30 PM »

Words to live by Warbird.  I am WAITING and trying my best to be patient.  Well done!

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Such Thing as a Phosphate Police E/F

« on: August 14, 2013, 09:19:57 PM »

Jim,

Good to know there is a cousin to one of my E/Fs that made it through the time/war vortex!  Your number is indeed close.  Another goal of mine is to locate and acquire consecutively numbered HScs.  I assume yours has a stamped trigger like mine.  Any phosphate parts?

947675 is a recent acquisition and is all military blue.  The finish is spectacular dark military blue ~98+% with immaculate grips (original varnish present).  To be honest, in disassembling it it appears like it is almost in original unfired condition, with old dried grease present only on moving parts.

Several years ago I acquired a spectacular legit stone mint E/L that was reported to have been removed from a rail car.  Who knows, these could have both been on that same rail car.  Come to think of it about the same time or shortly thereafter an E/F sold on one of the online auction sites in its original shipping box with instructions.....perhaps that same rail car!?!?  Missed out on that one....regrettably.

Good Hunting.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Such Thing as a Phosphate Police E/F

« on: August 14, 2013, 05:07:29 PM »

Another version for me to hunt down.     I'm guessing the Army took precedence over other organizations that late in the war.  It is really surprising that they were still marking with organizational proofs at all at that point.  If someone out there does have an E/F phosphate I would really appreciate seeing some pics of it.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Such Thing as a Phosphate Police E/F

« on: August 14, 2013, 01:37:59 PM »

Thanks for the information and kind words Warbird.  Experience just means I am getting old, you and Peter are the real die hards.  I'm fortunate today as both the wife and I are off.  That means the lil' guy is under supervision while I wrestle with brake repairs on my pickup.....

Anyway, perhaps you can clear up my question if I provide a little more detail.  As I said, I have two E/F HSc both produced in about March of 1945 (Serial #s 947675 and 948113 if my spreadsheets are correct).  They are both military blue though I believe the later number has some phosphate parts [trigger and safety I think]).  Now I'm curious if the data base has phosphate E/F versions before and/or after this production time?  My phosphate is an Army in the late 949... series projected to be April '45 production. I suspect that the phosphate E/F are all in the very late production but have no proof of this just conjecture based on my observations.  I would love to see a pic of a late phosphate E/F if a member has one.

I rarely stumble across the "bakelite" grip versions in person and see most of them on the net.  Now always suspect as the repro grips are out there.



Lunch is over...back to work!

Thanks again.

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Model HSC Pistol / Re: Low Grip Screw KM HSc

« on: August 14, 2013, 10:46:48 AM »

Congrats Warbird!!!  This is a beautiful piece and one that any collector would be anxious to own.  This version remains my "Holy Grail".  I remain hopeful (and diligent) that there is one out there for me!

Regards - Rob

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Model HSC Pistol / Such Thing as a Phosphate Police E/F

« on: August 14, 2013, 10:42:19 AM »

Warbird,

I continue to "lurk" out there more than contribute due to my personal demands but remain committed to the HSc.  Peter advised me of the change in format here on MauserGuns.com and the fact that you were now moderating the HSc section.  You were the already the unofficial moderator in the previous format and the new format is a pleasant surprise - CONGRATS.

I know you have maintained a database for years.  I was curious if you have ever recorded a phosphate E/F?  I recently acquired a late E/F (March 1945 production) which is still in military blue finish.  Personally, I have never seen anything but Army-proofed, phosphate-finished versions of the HSc.  Just curious.

I will strive to improve my photography skills and set aside some time to hopefully contribute more.....more likely when the weather becomes less pleasant.

Best regards - Rob